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IOS version and ANT+

hi im currently using my ipad pro with the ant+ dongle with the cycleops virtual training app and it works just fine with all my garmin gear(vector, hr, odo) and a fluid trainer. I was wondering if the newly ios version of zwift also works with the ant+dongle? 

Thx 

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    Jon Mayfield Official comment

    Hi all. The version of Zwift in the AppStore now (Released Jan 22/Jan23) has our first pass at iOS ANT+ support via the Wahoo ANT dongle.

    We support HR straps, Speed sensors, Cadence sensors, Speed/Cadence sensors, FootPods and Power Meters.  No Controllable Trainer support yet.

    If you see a little icon of the ANT+ dongle on the pairing screen, it means Zwift found your dongle and is trying to use it.  If you don't see the icon, maybe try plugging the dongle in before you start Zwift.   

    We'll be checking here for feedback and will try to fix any reported issues as soon as we can.

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    Jon Mayfield

    MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BELOW, which is now out of date:

    It does not support the ANT+ dongle via 30pin adapter.   The setup seems a bit clunky and I think it is in use less and less each day, so we didn't delay our iOS release any longer and shipped without support for it.

    One option is to get an ANT+ to Bluetooth translator, such as this heart rate strap: https://www.amazon.com/4iiii-Innovations-V100-viiiiva-Monitor/dp/B00BHZQ6OG   It will pick up your Vector and rebroadcast it as a bluetooth power meter.

    A second option, as of yet untested by Zwift, is the NPE Cable http://store.npe-inc.com/cable-connect-ant-to-ble-use-code-handlingdisc/ which does the exact same thing. DC RainMaker talks about using Zwift with it here: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/11/hands-upcoming-running.html

     

    Finally, if there is significant demand, we may consider putting forth the effort of writing a whole new ANT+ stack to support the Wahoo ANT+ key.  We would need a better understanding of just how many people own both the 30pin adapter and ANT+ dongle, and are willing to have 5cm of plastic sticking out of their iPhone or iPad.

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    pierre poulin

    Anyway its my old setup that i have for quite sometime now... i guess the new translator dongle will be more popular than the wahoo ant+ plus the lightning adapter. 

    I might upgrade my trainer for a kickr next year so ill join back in the mean time ill stick with cycleops 

     

    thx for the quick update 

     

    cheers

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    Michael Kaminsky- BMRR

    i'm sorry if I missed this but is there an additional fee for current members to use iOS?

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    Tim Shears

    Yes, ANT+ please. Some say it is old, but I have 3 heart rate straps and two wattbikes. All ANT+ so I REALLY need to be able to feed that data in. 

    This is the only thing stopping me really using Zwift. I have never wanted to put a computer if front of me when training so have been waiting for the ios version so I can run Zwift on my ipad pro. 

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    Nuno PAC

    Without the ant+ dongle how do you change resistance on smart trainers that can't be controlled via BLE?

    Which trainers do you support for BLE control? I am currently borrowing a Bkool Smart Pro as my Tacx Bushido Smart has been returned on a warranty issue

     

    thanks in advance

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    j oey

    Please support the wahoo ant key dongle. I've been using this setup for years. Even have the 30 pin to lightening adapter. Honestly having that much "plastic" stick out is a non issue since I'm stationary, like not on an open road. 

    The key works great for those of use that have ant+ only devices like Quarq power meters (they only pushed BT with their new DZero)

    I use the ant key with imobileintervals (iOS App Store)as well as Wahoo own app when It's not feesable to being my laptop with me to use Zwift. 

    Demand is there, pleas consider the support. If a small 1 man business like imobileinterval can write the ANT+ stack what does that say about Zwift?

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    Neil Strenge

    much better IMHO to go down the CABLE route.... less vulnerable to damage, being accidently knocked out etc, plus gives you options to use Ant+ as  BLE on any device, not just an iPad...

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    Tim Shears

    Shame Cable isnt sold in the UK

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    Neil Strenge

    it ships to the uk for a few dollars... just ordered one!

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    Tim Shears

    VAT? Import duty? Handling charge from the local shipper? Been stung like that before. 

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    Neil Strenge

    maybe... we'll cross those bridges when we get to them...

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    A. Daye

    Thats disappointing. Went out and bought a lightning to 30 pin converter today so I could start using zwift straight away with the wahoo ant+

    Support for it would be good 

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    Tim Shears

    Easiest thing is to buy the 4iii heart rate monitor as it will take ANT signals from another device and transmit BT to Zwift. 

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    A. Daye

    Yeah, think that's what I will do. Checked their website and is £63 in the U.K. Will do as an early xmas present 

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    Berthold Stadler

    Hallo,

    Please support the Wahoo Ant+ Dongle ! I use it for CVT and it works perfekt with

    the lightning cable. I an not amused to by an other expensive Cable Adapter ..

    Thx 

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    Dave Rollins

    Please add Wahoo ANT+ heart support. I use the dongle along with my bike's Bluetooth speed and cadence sensor with the Cyclemeter app on a daily basis for my trainor workouts. I do not see purchasing Zwift without having this important metric.

    If low end apps have no problem with this type of support, I do not understand why a sophisticated app such as Zwift lacks this important capability.

    Please add support!!

    Thank you

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    SUNG JIN LIM

    please support wahoo key !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I just bought lightning to 30 pin adapter....

     

    please! I waited this time for 3 month.. !

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    Paul O'Neill

    Yes please to wahoo key.

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    L EETHOL KISS WBR (C) ZZRC

     Hi. Was delighted that the iOS app had finally arrived so able to use it on iOS to wahoo kickr howether with no ANT+ connectivity I'm unable to view HR and cadence. Will cost £68 to get BT gear. Maybe I'll need to purchase, can use both BT ant ANT+ on TrainerRoad and Sufferfest so is a shame. Won't be switching until decided on a solution, Santa ?? 

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    Jon Armitage

    Please and ant support. My Tacx trainer connects with ble but my cadence sensors and hrm use ANT. 

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    L EETHOL KISS WBR (C) ZZRC

    Sales person am I, I've had a thought.  I have a wahoo HR strap, a Garmin HR strap and a Garmin speed and cadence sensor that I can sell to pay for new TICKR kit. I could come out making bucks on this and having dual compatibility gear. 👌

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    Mark Thorburn WBR

    Again, I'd really appreciate ANT+ support. My road setup uses ANT+ and although my smart trainer can use both BLE and ANT+ it would save me having to buy a separate BLE HRM to use exclusively on my trainer with Zwift

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    Adam Prink (xXx-Racing)

    Support the wahoo key! If Trainer Road can do it...

     

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    SUNG JIN LIM

    Support the wahoo key

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    L EETHOL KISS WBR (C) ZZRC

    Wiggle is cheapest I've found in the U.K. If you buy the new dual use ones. 

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/wahoo-tickr-heart-rate-monitor-for-iphone-and-android/

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/wahoo-rpm-cadence-sensor-bluetooth-40-and-ant/

    Go through TopCashback and you'll get an extra 4.02% off. 

    Then sell your old kit on eBay. 👊

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    PAUL TYNAN

    I support the Wahoo key.

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    Michael Wiedersich

    Hey ho,

    i have an old Bushido Trainer t 1980 with only ANT+. I can pair this Trainer with the Wahoo Dongle 30 pin Adapter on my iPad with the Tacx Cycling App, but not with Zwift. I read this thread, did i understand it correctly, that at this time there is no iOS-Support for this Connection? Why it run with the tacx cycling app?

    Thanx and ride on

    Michael

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    A. Daye

    Hi Michael, you are correct. You read the thread correctly. 

    Currently the zwift application does not recognise the wahoo ant+ dongle so the data is not able to be transmitted and interpreted by zwift.

    Your tacx cycling app does recognise it so accepts the data being transmitted to it and handles the information correctly.

    It appears there are no definite plans that support for the wahoo ant+ will be included in zwift as it is deemed old technology

    I hope this helps? 

     

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    Tim Shears

    ANT+ may not be the latest, but it is still the widest used communications protocol in the fitness industry. For a little bit of work Zwift could open up their service to a huge new market - i.e. those of is who are not goong to buy a new HRM and trainer just to become compatible with Zwift. 

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